# Apply selected Border Buffer as a crop of the positive conversion/preview?

**URL:** <https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/apply-selected-border-buffer-as-a-crop-of-the-positive-conversion-preview/7654>\
**Category:** Guides and How-Tos\
**Created:** [April 11, 2024, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/apply-selected-border-buffer-as-a-crop-of-the-positive-conversion-preview/7654 "2024-04-11T16:49:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![antkent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7cd45c/32.png) [@antkent](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/antkent)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/apply-selected-border-buffer-as-a-crop-of-the-positive-conversion-preview/7654/1 "2024-04-11T16:49:57Z")

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I asked for this as a new feature, but wanted to know if there is an easy way to do this with a preset?

To be clear I am looking to do this:

- Select a Border Buffer
- Covert the negative(s)
- Apply the Border Buffer used for conversion as the crop of the positive conversion/preview

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**Author:** ![nate](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forums.negativelabpro.com/nate/32/4_2.png) [@nate](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/nate)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2024, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/apply-selected-border-buffer-as-a-crop-of-the-positive-conversion-preview/7654/2 "2024-04-11T22:45:49Z")

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Gotcha! That makes sense.

I’ll have to think about how that would fit in… I’m working on more tools related to cropping in upcoming releases, so it might fit into that, or be solved another way.

Thanks!  
-Nate

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**Author:** ![Digitizer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@Digitizer](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/Digitizer)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2024, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/apply-selected-border-buffer-as-a-crop-of-the-positive-conversion-preview/7654/3 "2024-04-12T11:53:52Z")

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> [@nate](#):
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> I’m working on more tools related to cropping

Thanks Nate, looking forward to the results.

I think that we’ve already “talked” about automatically cropping camera scans?

Often, the scans contain either “white” or “black” areas caused by film rebate or negative holder. If that excess material could be cropped off automatically, the overall conversion process could be sped up considerably. Autocrop would have to include some rotation to make it perfect. The following example shows a scan that needs both rotation and cropping:

 ![Bildschirm 2024-04-12 um 13.46.04](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/negativelabpro/original/2X/3/32f92cc2f28ecfcce6882d9c883e8ce2d91d2ffc.jpeg)

If we think further, we’d also welcome automatic transformation, e.g. for cases in which the optical axis wasn’t aligned properly. Automatic alignment in Lightroom (and other apps) usually seems to work from the center outwards. Reversing this direction could help in our case though, but would still need some slack, e.g. because of elongated corners as shown in the screen above.

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**Author:** ![nate](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forums.negativelabpro.com/nate/32/4_2.png) [@nate](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/nate)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/apply-selected-border-buffer-as-a-crop-of-the-positive-conversion-preview/7654/4 "2024-04-15T19:11:05Z")

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Yep, working on including auto-rotations, auto-transformations, and compensation for elongated corners, like in the example. With enough detection accuracy, it is all possible.

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**Author:** ![antkent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7cd45c/32.png) [@antkent](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/antkent)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/apply-selected-border-buffer-as-a-crop-of-the-positive-conversion-preview/7654/5 "2024-10-04T18:34:58Z")

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Any news on this potential feature? I have halted my scanning while waiting for it.

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**Author:** ![nate](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forums.negativelabpro.com/nate/32/4_2.png) [@nate](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/nate)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2024, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/apply-selected-border-buffer-as-a-crop-of-the-positive-conversion-preview/7654/6 "2024-10-04T20:21:16Z")

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Trying to get this out by black friday…

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**Author:** ![antkent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7cd45c/32.png) [@antkent](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/antkent)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2025, 1:44am UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/apply-selected-border-buffer-as-a-crop-of-the-positive-conversion-preview/7654/7 "2025-06-04T01:44:49Z")

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Nate, is this still in plan at some point?

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**Author:** ![nate](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forums.negativelabpro.com/nate/32/4_2.png) [@nate](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/nate)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2025, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/apply-selected-border-buffer-as-a-crop-of-the-positive-conversion-preview/7654/8 "2025-06-09T21:44:11Z")

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Yes, this is still the plan
