# Negative Lab Pro v2.4 - Saturation Control, Faster Conversions, More Precise Editing and much more

**URL:** <https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/negative-lab-pro-v2-4-saturation-control-faster-conversions-more-precise-editing-and-much-more/5476>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Created:** [November 14, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/negative-lab-pro-v2-4-saturation-control-faster-conversions-more-precise-editing-and-much-more/5476 "2022-11-14T18:52:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![nate](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forums.negativelabpro.com/nate/32/4_2.png) [@nate](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/nate)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/negative-lab-pro-v2-4-saturation-control-faster-conversions-more-precise-editing-and-much-more/5476/37 "2022-11-25T20:41:57Z")

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> [@mike\_kukavica](#):
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> I’m glad to finally see that you’re charging for an update - we all need you to be able to keep going, and I’m happy to pay what it costs to help ensure this tool has a future.

Really appreciate that, @mike_kukavica! I’ve loved providing free updates for the past four years because I want everyone to benefit from the improvements, but yes, having paid updates will help ensure I can keep building and improving long into the future!

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**Author:** ![Digitizer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@Digitizer](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/Digitizer)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/negative-lab-pro-v2-4-saturation-control-faster-conversions-more-precise-editing-and-much-more/5476/38 "2022-11-26T11:41:51Z")

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> [@nate](#):
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> ## 6. UI Improvements
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> Sensitive settings now include arrows to increment the settings.
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> ![increment-control](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/negativelabpro/original/2X/4/46c85ef381a8f627628d77544c61e15c13280181.jpeg)

I can almost not see the backdrop of the sliders because the blue strip is too wide and bright. I’d prefer to have no strip at all, the slider handles are all it needs imo.

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**Author:** ![nate](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forums.negativelabpro.com/nate/32/4_2.png) [@nate](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/nate)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2022, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/negative-lab-pro-v2-4-saturation-control-faster-conversions-more-precise-editing-and-much-more/5476/39 "2022-11-27T17:57:17Z")

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I agree @Digitizer - there just isn’t a way for me to change this in Lightroom’s plugin SDK. It was actually crazy complicated to get the slider to overlay on top of the color bar (and in fact, I have not found a way to do this in Windows, so the Windows UI is a little different here).

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**Author:** ![Digitizer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@Digitizer](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/Digitizer)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/negative-lab-pro-v2-4-saturation-control-faster-conversions-more-precise-editing-and-much-more/5476/40 "2022-11-28T13:38:25Z")

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> [@nate](#):
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> crazy complicated to get the slider to overlay on top of the color bar

Maybe it’s better to simplify things and omit the color bar?  
Can you post a screenshot of DPL on windows?

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**Author:** ![nate](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forums.negativelabpro.com/nate/32/4_2.png) [@nate](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/nate)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/negative-lab-pro-v2-4-saturation-control-faster-conversions-more-precise-editing-and-much-more/5476/41 "2022-11-28T16:37:17Z")

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This is how it look in Windows for reference:

![Screen Shot 2022-11-28 at 11.30.45 AM](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/negativelabpro/original/2X/5/5525556fcdf67557dd8d83fafd6de05e14e6e156.png)

Even though it isn’t ideal, the color bar definitely provides a a visual clue as to what to expect when you move the slider in a given direction.

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**Author:** ![C\_V\_May](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4da419/32.png) [@C\_V\_May](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/C_V_May)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/negative-lab-pro-v2-4-saturation-control-faster-conversions-more-precise-editing-and-much-more/5476/42 "2022-12-05T21:29:25Z")

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@nate Has anyone called you a hero yet?

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**Author:** ![celac](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forums.negativelabpro.com/celac/32/901_2.png) [@celac](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/celac)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/negative-lab-pro-v2-4-saturation-control-faster-conversions-more-precise-editing-and-much-more/5476/43 "2023-01-21T21:52:29Z")

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Hello. Just wondering where things are w/ regard to V3?

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**Author:** ![sbadham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@sbadham](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/sbadham)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2023, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/negative-lab-pro-v2-4-saturation-control-faster-conversions-more-precise-editing-and-much-more/5476/44 "2023-01-29T22:46:22Z")

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Anxiously looking forward to Ver. 3.0, too. Ver. 2.4 is great but roll analysis sounds like a potential game-changer for consistent and accurate white balance.

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**Author:** ![nate](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forums.negativelabpro.com/nate/32/4_2.png) [@nate](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/nate)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/negative-lab-pro-v2-4-saturation-control-faster-conversions-more-precise-editing-and-much-more/5476/45 "2023-01-30T22:31:00Z")

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Getting close to v3… But I want to make sure it is all working great before I share out. Looking like it will be late February before it is officially ready…

Just to give some specifics on the delay, I have had to spend a lot of time refining the way that Roll Analysis stores its data and the way it gets defined because of some limitations in the Lightroom SDK, but it will be way better now… you can define a roll however you’d like (even down to a single calibration frame, which is really really useful), you can organize it into a group (I’ve found it really useful to organize by the film name), you can manage your groups (to hide or show groups), and it is easy to move all of your roll data to a new computer if you need to. I’ll share a video demo soon here in the forum announcements…

I also have some delay related to the payment service that I use (Gumroad). I haven’t been entirely happy with them recently (issues with them going down during Black Friday, and customers appearing to get charged for payments that never went through) and they are now raising their fee by over 400%. It’s a bit of a fiasco. So I’m also in the middle of migrating to a new payment processor and licensing SDK. But that will be sorted soon.

Thanks for your patience!!! It will be worth it!

-Nate

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**Author:** ![fwolff](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forums.negativelabpro.com/fwolff/32/2415_2.png) [@fwolff](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/fwolff)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2023, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/negative-lab-pro-v2-4-saturation-control-faster-conversions-more-precise-editing-and-much-more/5476/46 "2023-02-04T16:06:09Z")

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What will be the fee for v3?

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**Author:** ![nate](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forums.negativelabpro.com/nate/32/4_2.png) [@nate](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/nate)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/negative-lab-pro-v2-4-saturation-control-faster-conversions-more-precise-editing-and-much-more/5476/47 "2023-02-16T17:01:51Z")

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Hi!

For any purchases made after Oct 1, 2022, the upgrade will be included free with their current licence.

For purchases made before that, the upgrade fee will be $49.

-Nate

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**Author:** ![OnMargateSands](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forums.negativelabpro.com/onmargatesands/32/3247_2.png) [@OnMargateSands](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/OnMargateSands)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 6:38pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/negative-lab-pro-v2-4-saturation-control-faster-conversions-more-precise-editing-and-much-more/5476/49 "2023-03-01T18:38:55Z")

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Hope you’ve found a better payment solution – that hike is INSANE. Hyped to get my hands on v3 when it’s polished! Keep up the good work

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**Author:** ![SmilinDreamer](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forums.negativelabpro.com/smilindreamer/32/3195_2.png) [@SmilinDreamer](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/SmilinDreamer)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/negative-lab-pro-v2-4-saturation-control-faster-conversions-more-precise-editing-and-much-more/5476/50 "2023-03-08T00:01:08Z")

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Hey Nate. I bought the V2.4 recently. Is there anyway to get hands on the V3 pre-release for free rn? Thanks.

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**Author:** ![pablo](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forums.negativelabpro.com/pablo/32/2330_2.png) [@pablo](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/pablo)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/negative-lab-pro-v2-4-saturation-control-faster-conversions-more-precise-editing-and-much-more/5476/51 "2023-03-09T07:58:38Z")

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I would assume you’ll get v3 update for free if you bought after October 2022 as Nate wrote above.  
As far as I know, there is no “public” pre-release yet. 🙂

Well just need to wait a bit longer. But I’m sure Nate is working on it to deliver once again a great update.

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**Author:** ![DOS9570](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecc23a/32.png) [@DOS9570](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/DOS9570)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2023, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/negative-lab-pro-v2-4-saturation-control-faster-conversions-more-precise-editing-and-much-more/5476/52 "2023-03-29T16:20:15Z")

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Heyy are there news on V3?  
Or maybe aven a beta version?

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**Author:** ![yunhao.jiang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/96bed5/32.png) [@yunhao.jiang](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/yunhao.jiang)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/negative-lab-pro-v2-4-saturation-control-faster-conversions-more-precise-editing-and-much-more/5476/53 "2023-04-18T17:52:09Z")

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Also wondering bout V3!  
Looking forward to the roll analysis!

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**Author:** ![dneuman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@dneuman](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/dneuman)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2023, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/negative-lab-pro-v2-4-saturation-control-faster-conversions-more-precise-editing-and-much-more/5476/54 "2023-04-22T19:26:40Z")

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Also looking forward to V3. Are we near? Anxiously waiting. 😊 😁 Just kidding. It is a great program even as it stands.

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**Author:** ![David\_Atlarge](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forums.negativelabpro.com/david_atlarge/32/3414_2.png) [@David\_Atlarge](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/David_Atlarge)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/negative-lab-pro-v2-4-saturation-control-faster-conversions-more-precise-editing-and-much-more/5476/55 "2023-06-01T09:54:44Z")

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Can we have an update on 3.0 please? I’m an early adopter and January is a distant memory now… Thanks, David

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**Author:** ![nate](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forums.negativelabpro.com/nate/32/4_2.png) [@nate](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/nate)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/negative-lab-pro-v2-4-saturation-control-faster-conversions-more-precise-editing-and-much-more/5476/56 "2023-06-01T17:41:59Z")

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About to enter third wave of beta, which should be the last, and then it will be officially released.

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**Author:** ![Sethsg](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forums.negativelabpro.com/sethsg/32/3367_2.png) [@Sethsg](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/u/Sethsg)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2023, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.negativelabpro.com/t/negative-lab-pro-v2-4-saturation-control-faster-conversions-more-precise-editing-and-much-more/5476/57 "2023-06-06T16:18:21Z")

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@nate Yay, I hope I get into the beta, I finally scanned all my film, and it would be cool to try the roll analysis feature. Anyways, thanks for all the hard work!

A quick question though, do you do the NLP stuff as your full-time job or as a side gig to a full-time job? If it is a side gig, you must be super busy! I have no idea how hard coding a plugin is but I imagine it ain’t easy!

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