Suggested backlight sources for scanning film with DSLR

Yeah, I’m really interested to try that out, but agree that it is expensive. Plus, as far as I can tell, it doesn’t have the ability to advance each frame, so would be pretty slow to use.

You should also check out the MK1 from Negative Supply.

I have a beta unit on loan from them, and it is awesome. You use the knob to advance and align each frame. Here it is in my setup.

Super fast, super flat. Got through an entire roll of 35mm film in about 3 minutes, and the results were great.

@nate

Thanks for the suggestion. After looking further into the NegativeSupply unit, I’m thinking it’s pretty pricey too. It’s like $300 US, plus also limited to 35mm only.

I’ve decided to take a chance on the Kaiser unit.

Couldn’t find a dealer here in the states but Fotospeed in GBR has stock. I emailed them, and they told me that for 35mm film strips the pressure plate can be adjusted to easily just pull the film stock through, quickly advancing from frame to frame.

Plus, it seems much more versatile as it can accommodate any format up to 6x9, and mounted 35mm slides.

My only concern is that the 35mm mask looks a little “restrictive”, but I’m sure I can easily alter the opening when it arrives.

Not bad for $225!

BTW, you’re local to me, I’d be happy to lend it out, or show you my setup when it arrives.

Venture on over to East Kensington, and I’ll even buy you a drink in Fishtown sometime!

Thanks again for all your effort with NLP, it’s been a revelation to me!

Tony, write them; they are OK with English and reply in a day or two.

My understanding: The CopyBox and film holders are out of production right now, some kind of product problem, they expect to be able to offer them again in September.

As for your question on ordering, I don’t know. I just bought the CopyBox.

Thanks @Richard1Karash

I did email them, twice now. They offered no reply about the copybox. The copystand is a good value for the money paid, so I’m happy with that for now.

Skier copybox II in production and available in October. $189 USD gets you a 97CRI light source and holders for 135 format films and slides, plus all medium formats up to 6x9.

Looks like a bargain.

http://www.skier.com.tw/web/en/Products/products_content.jsp?gs_id=GS1567146643860&chk_who=content&isPage=true#1

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Unfortunately I made a mistake with a cheap tracing panel so am looking for another option.

The Nanguang CN-T96 seems like a good deal. Do you have a holder for the film too or are you just placing it on top of the light?

No, you’ll need some diffusion. With this and most video lights you can see the individual LEDs. So, you’ll need to rig something to hold the light, the diffuser, and the negative/slide. Look for “stackable bamboo box 6x9” which are intended as drawer organizers.

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Cool, thanks. What would make a suitable diffuser or can it have an impact on the scan? eg grain or colour shift. Wondering if some sort of tracing paper or sheet of acrylic would be good.

Yes, diffuser can have an impact. Key point is to hold the film a bit away from the diffuser, enough so that any texture in diffuser is well out of focus. For camera-scan of 35mm, 1/4 to 1/2" works for me. What to use? Easiest is drafting mylar, plastic sheet used for drafting. It’s translucent. Brand Dura-Lar works for me and is readily available here.

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I think adding any JUST - Normlicht panel would be appropriate here :slight_smile:

What lens are you using and what DPI are you getting?

Since an iPhone and iPad was listed, would the screen on a Mac Book work as well?

Video lights as backlight for cam-scan of negatives with NLP.

I’ve commented before on the Skier CopyBox as a good backlight source. It plugs into wall power and is quite bright. I wanted to compare compact (e.g. 3x5") video lights, intended for hot-shoe mount. I compared three to the Skier and all produce excellent NLP conversions.

Skier CopyBox is the brightest, 1/150 sec at ISO 100, f/5.6, at 1:1, no adjustments. Price: $189, and now back in stock, version 2. The light panel is CN-T96, find it on eBay or AliExpress for ~$30, a bargain.

Godox LED-M150 video light, plastic, light weight, 1/50th sec. Brightness adjustment only. Price: $40, a bargain.

Boling BL-P1 video light, built like a tank, adjustable bracket, rechargeable battery, selectable color temp and brightness, 1/50th sec. Price: $159.

Aladdin A-Lite, the pro alternative, comes with a diffuser, rechargeable battery, selectable color temp and brightness. 1/30th. Price $430.

NLP: White Balance on unexposed film, Frontier, PreSat=3, Standard, Fuji, and a bit of Brightness adjustment.

More on back-lights. Tracing panels and iPad/iPhone.

TikTeck tracing panel, from Amazon, measured 6700°K, brightness adjustment only. I think the light is uneven. Exposure 1/3sec. Very inexpensive, $22. Note muted reds, color cast on t-shirt.

Kaiser Slimlite Plano, a quality light panel. Brightness adjustment only, battery powered. Exposure 1/2sec. About $100. Excellent result.

Apple iPad Pro 11" (late 2018 model), latest Retina display (3-color, narrow band?). Show a while image, max brightness, turn off True Tone. Exposure 0.6 sec. Note especially vivid reds.

Apple iPad 3rd Gen (older model, from 2013). Exp 0.5 sec. Very good overall.

Avoid TikTeck for negatives, but might be OK for chromes. Others are good. Current iPad and iPhone displays produce very vivid reds in NLP conversions. Note exposure times much longer than for video lights.

Same settings as before: WB on unexposed film, Frontier, PreSat=3, Standard, Fuji, then a bit of Brightness adjustment.

Kaiser, iPad (2018 or 201), all will do a good job for NLP conversions, if you can accept exposure times.


Hi Richard, can you perhaps provide a link to a specific type of Mylar that works best? I browsed for Dura-Lar, but there are so many different types (wet media, matte, clear, etc). thank you so much !

Sure… This is the one I bought: 0.005 thick, matte on both sides.

Hey Richard,

thanks a lot !

Any feedback on the Kaiser filmcopy vario? Can’t find no info other that official product details of this device.

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I just got the CN-T96 video light after being dissatisfied with the colours from using a Huion light pad but the LED’s are spread quite far apart across the panel so I’m wondering how others have gone about using the CN-T96/nanguang panel?

This thing looks like such a great solution! Thanks @Richard1Karash.

My only question is when feeding 120 film through, do you find it could easily scratch the emulsion - i’m worried about that happening.