Idea: Make Negative Lab Pro for other programs (Capture One, Affinity, Luminar, Affinity, Lightroom 5, etc)

Yeah, I understand that using Adobe DNG Convertor adds an extra step to a LR 6 workflow, but you can batch process 100s or 1000s of raws at once if you want to. It shouldn’t really matter how many you have.

But yeah, not opposed to opening up Negative Lab Pro to other platforms, but just not able to get the level of deep, RAW integration I want with any other platform at the moment.

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How about PhotoKit, giving access to Apple Photos on MacOS, iPadOS, iOS? Huge number of potential customers.

Developer documentation:

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/photokit

Different raw program uses very different color engine. So If the SDK problem solved, the different NLP will have very different result which I think is not good thing. If Nate has much more ablility I would like to see a standalone program soultion.

And… I used to PS curved image to colorcorrect negatives before NLP’s born. As far as I tried, CaptureOne has very ugly redition to image’s shadow (denoised and desaturated) and without no contrast output. I would not recommend use CaptureOne as RAW decoder for neagtive scans.

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hmm, perhaps Nate could investigate The Gimp, I understand they too have non-destructive RAW editing…

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Well I evidently discovered this awesome plug-in too late. Haven’t been working/shooting as much the past year on hiatus and this went right by. Quite a drag that it did since the thought put into this plug-in is evident from the get-go. Well executed, sir.
I however am a very happy LR5 holdout (for a fair number of reasons, largest of which is it simply suited and continues to suit my needs). My workflow was always fine without the issues 6 would cause me. But this plug-in would make me finally plunge into 6 … and now I see it’s no longer offered. I won’t join the subscription model personally, so it seems I am more than a bit sunk.

Looks fantastic and the results I’ve perused from others speak for themselves.

A Photoshop version would be highly beneficial though.

  1. Lightroom is getting abandoned (the name Classic is an euphemism, just like senior etc.)
  2. Lightroom sux as a catalog tool (no folder auto scanning)
  3. Lightroom doesn’t do anything that ACR doesn’t (or ACR plus Bridge)
  4. Many people need to use Lightroom just to run this plugin and nothing else

I tremendously appreciate we have this plug in at all, but I believe it would be far more versatile as a PS plugin.

Hi,
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I think rather than try to support all the different softwares as a plug-in, it would be better to make NLP available in a stand alone mode with TIFF exports like the way the Nik plugins used to work. I would pay extra for the stand alone version.
NLP looks amazing but I will never install anything by Adobe and will happily pay a premium to keep Adobe or any subscription software off my system.

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Yes please keep evaluating…we need either a stand-alone version or one for Capture One. Is anything like this on the horizon or should we not hold our breath?

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I don’t know where you’re getting the idea that Lightroom is being abandoned…
I’m almost certain you can auto import photos into Lightroom based on a folder, though I could be wrong
The problem with it being photoshop plugin is that it wouldn’t be able to directly use RAW and it’s also a destructive editor. The thing I love about LR is that I can make all the changes I want to my photos but the original file is unharmed, I wouldn’t get this option with PS.

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Just chiming in to say: “NLP without LR would be very desirable”

The only reason I would require LR is to use this plugin, it would feel like giving money to the wrong person (every month). A standalone version would easily be worth twice your current asking price of the plugin for me.

That said, I know this is not easy…

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I still don’t see LR Classic being abandoned, they put out a pretty chunky update out the other day for it. If Adobe didn’t care about it then they wouldn’t update it :wink:
Anyway, there’s advantages and disadvantages to both. Namely that you’d need RAW files for ACR. You’d also have 2 files within ACR for your image. Lightroom (and CC) is a very powerful tool that isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. It’s much easier (in my opinion) than using ACR with PS, too much clutter in the way, opening files 1 by 1. But to each their own!

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Yes, possible. However the interface, the icon and all does not seem to follow the progress of other apps. Let’s hope they keep developing it.

The plug in could be PS only too. There are other plugin (some historic some present) that do the job in PS. This way you could still manipulate the photo either in PS or LR without the need for duplification that is my biggest grudge against NL :slight_smile:

Regarding the speed and quantity I don’t see much difference especially since working with film rarely produces 1000 shots per session …

Best! :slight_smile:

I know this is a long shot, but I’d love to see NLP as a stand alone program running on Linux as well as Mac and Win. I use RawTherapee for raw conversions, and while it does have a film negative module, it requires more adjustments for colour negatives than NLP seems to, at least by the videos I’ve seen of NLP.

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Hi,
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I too refuse to succumb to subscriberware, meaning Adobe CC. LR6 is available as a standalone but it will not run on newer Macs/newer OS, which presents a problem to many of us. Fortunately for me PS Elements is still available as a standalone (hard habit to break, using it since v4) and it supports the (nondestructive) Nik plugins.
Another vote for NLP as a standalone, please - and thank you.

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+1 vote for a standalone version of NLP! The only reason I have lightroom is so that I can use this software. I would gladly pay for an upgrade to be able to use NLP on its own and ditch the Adobe world…

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+1 for stand alone version

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Please do keep evaluating! Thank you :pray:

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Yes, a non Lightroom version would be lovely. Standalone, Photoshop or Capture One and I would part with my money on the spot.

I too would love to see either a stand alone version or a plug in for photoshop elements.

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Hi Nate,
I too have just signed up to make this comment. I’ll try to refrain from the pro-con Lightroom discussion. Suffice to say I was a huge LR evangelist and am now paying a lot more to pretty much everybody exept Adobe. (mainly CaptureOne, Affinity, and PixInsight) You may consider it a huge compliment that I’m considering to install LR purely to test your plugin further.

I too think it might be worth for you to investigate going stand-alone. NLP makes me excited to start shooting film again. From what I’ve seen so far you succeed in removing every obstacle that I dislike about the process (except maybe for the scanning). I think an application like NLP will be a huge contribution to the entire film-shooting community. I’m sure that the community is more than willing to compensate you for your time, love and effort.

Keep up the great work!

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