Seeking Advice on Getting the Most Out of Negative Lab Pro

Hey everyone!

I have been diving into Negative Lab Pro and am really excited about the potential of digitalizing my film negatives. I am still getting my bearings with the software, so I thought I’d reach out to this awesome community for some advice.

  1. Workflow Tips: What’s your go-to workflow for scanning and processing? Any tips on settings or steps that make the process smoother?

  2. Color Calibration: How do you handle color calibration? Do you have any specific techniques or tools that you swear by?

  3. Troubleshooting: I’ve run into a few hiccups with certain negatives. Any common issues I should be aware of or fixes that might save me some time?

Also I wanted to know how can I integrate Google cloud platform with Negative Lab Pro to organize my photos.

When I was searching about them, I came across these articles Lightroom Tips & Tricks | Negative Lab Pro Google Cloud Platform Services that are quite informative. But I’d love to learn more from the community member.

Would love to hear your experiences and any pro tips you might have.

Thanks in advance for your help!

Best Regards

Welcome to the Negative Lab Pro forum @hssmithh

You’ll most probably find a lot of examples, do’s and don’ts if you search the forum or just read threads with titles that sound promising. This will also help to promote your ability to interact, like e.g. adding multiple attachments.

Workflow tips: Maybe you have an idea about your preferred workflow? If so, let us know, because we can then give you answers that might be closer to what you’re looking for.

Colour Calibration: Do you think of calibrating NLP? Your screen? Again, please give us a few crumbs to chew on. Or is calibration rather a means than an end like e.g. “correct” colous?

Troubleshooting: Here too, be specific, add a screenshot or a link to a shared volume with example files etc. What versions of OS, NLP, Lightroom are you dealing with? Tell us if your hiccups are about conversion results or NLP settings…

All of the above is not meant to annoy you, but to help us help you.

Hi @hssmithh, did you mean to include a link to a generic page on Google Cloud Platform Services? I do my best to prevent accounts from using the forums as a way to build backlinks to their page.

Here is a white paper I wrote a couple of years ago. My rig has changed a bit, but the conception is the same:

As far as calibration is concerned, that all starts with choosing a good monitor MADE FOR graphic arts and photography. It continues with proper ICC color management, achieved through the use of a color calibration kit appropriate for your monitor. Once you have a properly calibrated monitor, you can make the correct settings in your software to take advantage of it (if applicable). In Lightroom Classic, that would be in the printing module if you are printing directly to an attached local printer.

As far as anything else, as an ex pro portrait lab production manager who ran color correction and implemented color management, I’ll say that working with many different film stocks is a challenge. Every brand, type, age, and specific emulsion number of film is going to have a different color balance.

Beyond that, film development varies a little at most labs (good labs stay within control limits). Home development is seldom as consistent as commercial development, unless you’re a stickler for agitation and temperature consistency, chemical freshness, etc.

The net result is that “Correct” or “perfect” color balance is elusive! What I strive for is REALISTIC color balance, or color balance that is believable for the scene or for my intended effect.

If you are working with ONE film stock all the time, you can always expose a ColorChecker chart under controlled lighting conditions (several different scenarios such as daylight, incandescent, 2700K CFL, 2700K LED, 4100K Cool White Fluorescents, your particular flash, 5000K CFL and LED…), and find settings in NLP that seem to be good starting points. You will quickly learn that only daylight and incandescent are really close matches to reality, because the spectra of flash, LED, and fluorescent sources are discontinuous. But you will also have some idea of what to try first.

There really isn’t any substitute for experience in color correction. Working from a standard scene (I like a Colorchecker and someone I know, photographed in the same frame and light) is a good way to get started. Be sure to do an exposure ring-around at –2 to +3 stops, because exposure slope changes color balance! In other words, you may need different color adjustments for the same subject at –1 and +1.5 stops, for example.

The hardest negatives I’ve worked with are those from the 1960s in my personal family collection. There’s not much left in them, because the dyes have faded unevenly, but some of them have made good digital files. Judicious masking in Photoshop has helped some of them.

One more thing: A lot of folks on this site seem to believe that pro photo lab scans are some sort of important reference. They CAN be, but if you are comparing production lab scans to your own scans, you should know that lab operators are doing basically the same interpretive things you are! They might have more experience, and a better scanner light source, but otherwise, they’re still humans turning knobs to correct what the machine is trying to do. In some cases, the process is automated, and you’re seeing the “personality” of the machine, not the true color of the original scene.

That is why I say, “Tune for individual preference.” Often, I’ve been able to capture better color and/or tonality from NLP than were present in the original lab scans or prints.

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Thanks for the tips burk