I am experiencing the same exact problem. Once I switch a previously converted image to multi-pass, all sliders don’t do anything.
Can you try the latest beta (b10) and see if the issue is still there? It should be fixed.
You can download the latest beta version here:
Just run the installer, and you should be good to go. If you run into issues, please let me know in the NLP v3.1 Beta Issues thread.
Awesome!
Assuming there aren’t any major issues in b10, it should be this week. I’m also trying to time this with a website update (with an updated and refreshed Guide section).
Wow! Love this example!
It’s in this latest beta, linked earlier in this post.
Should be fixed in v3.1b10.
It’s intended… basically the “refined” option uses two separate curves (one in the regular tone curve panel and one on a separate mask.
Awesome, that’s great to hear! Would love to see any samples you’d be willing to share here!
This issue should be fixed in b10, but let me know if it isn’t!
I made a bit of a discovery tonight while I was working on my dad’s old slides from the 1950s and I think it may lead to a small additional to my process. All I can say at this point is that it has lead to an improvement to my end result.
I used the positive option as normal, tinkering a little with the white balance and colour sliders to get the colours as natural as I could, did a conversion, edited out off the scratches and marks in lightroom that I inevitably get with these old slides. Then went back and I made my tiff copy. Only then am I tinkering with the curves to get the contrast as I want it, sharpening etc. It seems to work better doing these things when it’s a tiff even though it shouldn’t matter as it was a positive image.
This previously was my end point. But I was finding tonight that if I put this end stage tiff through negative lab pro again - so the second time the sane image has gone through, it improves the colours more - the contrast gets better, any slight colour cast issue that I have been struggling with gets sorted. Everything looks puncher. This is not something you can do with a negative - putting it through twice, but with a positive you can do it and I am liking the result.
EDIT: Just saw in the beta report section that it has to do with the LR version. Because my iMac is an old one from 2013 I try to stay as much on an old LR version as possible, so I can use the same catalogue on both machines…
guess I’ve either to stay at NLP 3.0.2 or upgrade my old iMac…
I just downloaded the beta 10 and installed it over the 3.0.2 and tried to re-convert some scans and also some new dngs.
However, it does not work and always stops with an error “bad argument #4 to ‘format’ (no value)”.
Any ideas what might be the problem?
I’m on a MacBook Air M1
Which version of LR should we be using for the latest version of NLP?
Sorry, it’s a bug in the b10 beta. Fix coming.
It should be the same as previous versions of NLP (any version of LR Classic, or the old perpetual license LR 6.14).
But..
- The “Refined” color process requires later versions of LrC
- There is an issue with the current beta (b10) that is impacting older versions of LrC, which will be addressed shortly.
Nate, I’m using NLP 3.0.2 with Lightroom version 13.0.2 on an Intel Mac running Sonoma 14.7.5. I am not having any problems and I want to keep it that way. But after reading your recommendation:
…it sounds like I might get away with updating Lightroom to 13.5 (if possible) and trying the NLP 3.1 beta? yes? no?
When LRC 13.5 was released, I had issues with NLP 3.0.2 and went back to LrC 13.4.
A few days ago, I updated macOS to 15.5 and LrC to 14.3.1…and issues came back. Checked other combinations and gave up. Finally, I restored macOS 14.7.6, LrC 13.4 and NLP versions 3.0.2 and beta 10 without issues so far. All of this on a 2019 5k iMac.
Note that downloading beta 11 worked, but the installer often was rejected and macOS proposed to trash it. → attn. @nate
Hi @runswithsizzers,
You can also keep Lightroom at 13.0.2 and try NLP v3.1… that would be my reco for now.
You don’t really gain much at the moment by updating to LrC v13.5 or later, but you are welcome to try that. In theory, you should be OK unless you are trying to do large batch conversions, and even then it should work. I’m also working directly with Adobe to try to help with the overall stability issues for plugins in v13.5 and later on Intel machines (they are aware of the issue and trying a fix for an upcoming version).
I’m curious if anyone else is having this issue… I have confirmed that the package is properly notarized with Apple, and it doesn’t really make sense that it would work sometimes on your system and sometimes not, which makes me think it may be a systems issue with your computer.
Just to be safe, I’ve reuploaded the package.
…and the beta 11 installer properly worked this time.
The issue was that macOS rejected the installer, not the plugin. Maybe the OS needed a few behind-the scene updates (Gatekeeper?) after I had re-installed macOS Sonoma because Sequoia (and Lr 14) were making NLP unable to convert more than a single digit number of files in one batch.
I’ll let you know if things work as expected…and they mostly do.
I had one issue so far, when NLP worked with super resolution and stitched images and with roll analysis. (NLP3.1 b11, LrC 13.4 macOS 14.7.6, 5k iMac 2019)
Nate, thanks for your reply.
I don’t know how many images it takes to qualify as a “large” batch. Lately I have been shooting 120, so a roll is only 12 shots. However, I just loaded my old Pentax MX with a 36 exposure roll.
I would really hate to have to uninstall my system software and /or Lightroom and revert to a previous version, so I am reluctant to “try” anything that does not have a very high probabilty of working. My 2020 Intel iMac is very similar to the one @Digitizer is using, so I am not going to try anything that does not work for him. Thanks, @Digitizer for doing the testing so I don’t have to!
So I guess for now, I wait for the next version of Lightroom and see if Adobe’s fix works. I am in no hurry to update my system software from Sonoma to Sequoia, but I would like to update Lightroom and NLP as soon as practical.
Did a few test runs with NLP 3.1 on LrC 13.4 on macOS Sequoia 15.5 from an external SSD attached to the 5k iMac 2019 - without any issues I relate to NLP so far.
The only issue I encountered is with DNG files, be they super-resolution or stitched.
- CR2 and CR3 files can easily be reset by Lightroom and/or removing them and synchronising the folder(s) they are in. As I don’t save the .xmp sidecar files, the images look exactly the same as they were when they were imported the very first time.
- The DNGs don’t handle that easily. XMP is stored in the files and resetting the images in Lightroom and/or NLP seems to work, but after syncing the folder and conversion, they don’t look well. Colours are pale and bright. When I the reset the files with Lightroom, the images are positive instead of negative I have not figured out a reliable way to bring those files back to where they started. While settings should be gone, Lr seems to pull some cached previews or whatever, it’s really bothersome.
Has anyone encountered this or is there a recommended way for that, @nate?
I don’t think that this issue is specific to NLP 3.1, but due to DNG metadata handling.
Understood. You can also update NLP without needed to update Lightroom Classic… v3.1 will work great on LrC 13.0.2.